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Bugzilla – Full Text Bug Listing |
| Summary: | System roles need improvement | ||
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| Product: | [openSUSE] openSUSE Tumbleweed | Reporter: | Axel Braun <axel.braun> |
| Component: | Patterns | Assignee: | Dominique Leuenberger <dimstar> |
| Status: | RESOLVED WONTFIX | QA Contact: | E-mail List <qa-bugs> |
| Severity: | Normal | ||
| Priority: | P5 - None | CC: | axel.braun, dgonzalez, lnussel, mrmazda |
| Version: | Current | ||
| Target Milestone: | --- | ||
| Hardware: | Other | ||
| OS: | Other | ||
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| Found By: | --- | Services Priority: | |
| Business Priority: | Blocker: | --- | |
| Marketing QA Status: | --- | IT Deployment: | --- |
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Description
Axel Braun
2019-02-08 11:26:57 UTC
How old is your TW download? Generic Desktop already has: "Intended as a base for customized software selection." (In reply to Felix Miata from comment #1) > How old is your TW download? Generic Desktop already has: "Intended as a > base for customized software selection." Latest available TW. 'Customized software selection' can mean everything, so clarification makes things easier, esp. for less experienced users In GH, it says: <label>Graphical system with reduced package set. Intended as base for a customized software selection.</label> Axel, can you suggest a different wording - but keep the length similar to the existing one, please. (In reply to Jiri Srain from comment #3) > In GH, it says: > > <label>Graphical system with reduced package set. Intended as base for a > customized software selection.</label> > > Axel, can you suggest a different wording - but keep the length similar to > the existing one, please. For example: Minimal graphical system. Add Desktop (XFCE, LXQT,...) under 'Software' on the Installation Overview Graphical system with reduced package set. Add Desktop (XFCE, LXQT,...) under 'Software' on the Installation Overview Graphical system with reduced package set. Intended as base for a customized software selection (XFCE, LXQT, LXDE, MATE, Enlightenment and other) (In the last case the question remains, 'where' to chose this. We as experienced uses know, noobs probably dont and get scared Thanks Axel. Ludwig, could you please take a look? Thanks. out of those, I like Graphical system with reduced package set. Add Desktop (XFCE, LXQT,...) under 'Software' on the Installation Overview the most @lnussel: also happy with it? Then I'll propose the change in github (In reply to Dominique Leuenberger from comment #6) > Graphical system with reduced package set. Add Desktop (XFCE, LXQT,...) > under 'Software' on the Installation Overview With this change and no others, no explicit mention of enabling customization would remain on the role screen. New try: Graphical system with reduced package set. Customize software selection under 'Software' on the Installation Overview (e.g. add your desktop environment) (In reply to Dominique Leuenberger from comment #8) > New try: > > Graphical system with reduced package set. Customize software selection > under 'Software' on the Installation Overview (e.g. add your desktop > environment) Sounds good Longest existing: Like the Server role but uses a read-only root filesystem to provide atomic, automatic updates of a system without interfering with the running system. Comment 8: Graphical system with reduced package set. Customize software selection under 'Software' on the Installation Overview (e.g. add your desktop environment) Save just a few more characters: Graphical system with reduced package set. Customize software selection under 'Software' at Installation Overview (e.g. add a desktop environment) (/me Wonders if first-timers know that XFCE, Cinnamon, Mate, et al are desktop environments) neither TW nor Leap target the clueless so I don't see a need to change the text there. More explanations could be given in the help screen instead. The method to customize the software selection is the same for all options so adding such statements is just superfluous IMO. I agree with Ludwig, customizing the SW selection applies to any desktop/role selected. The "Generic Desktop" role is not special in any way. The "Customize software selection under 'Software' on the Installation Overview" description might be misleading, it sounds as if the other desktops cannot be customized. I think the current "Intended as base for a customized software selection" wording is good enough, it clearly tells that it's supposed to be customized by user. (In reply to Ladislav Slezák from comment #13) > I think the current "Intended as base for a customized software selection" > wording is good enough, it clearly tells that it's supposed to be customized > by user. IMO, customizability offered by openSUSE at installation time is one of its important features, but one that is underadvertised, and somewhat disguised by the subtlety of its placement in this single description on a role screen that has "Online Repositorie" [sic] highlighted in its sidebar, followed by the down low and to the left "details" button on the next screen. Maybe this is all intended, maybe it's best, but if not...??? Based on its summary this bug about the whole role screen, not just its middle selection. (In reply to Ludwig Nussel from comment #12) > neither TW nor Leap target the clueless so I don't see a need to change the > text there. More explanations could be given in the help screen instead. The > method to customize the software selection is the same for all options so > adding such statements is just superfluous IMO. This results in a WONTFIX |