Bug 1187384

Created attachment 850295 [details]
unneeded packages

Hi John,

I am sorry, but I do not get what it is exactly the problem you are trying to report and how it is related to YaST. Could you, please, elaborate a little bit more?

Thanks!

Oh, I see now. It is strange, because in my TW system (which is up-to-date) I cannot see that package in the list of unneeded ones. Could you, please, attach YaST logs?

https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Report_a_YaST_bug#Attachments_-_y2logs.2C_hwinfo_etc.

Regards,
Imo

Created attachment 850299 [details]
y2logs debug info

Created attachment 850300 [details]
hwinfo

Thanks John.

OK, so I guess that we should ask libzypp maintainers, as YaST is getting this list directly from there. In order to give them as much information as possible, could you run the following command, please?

ZYPP_LIBSAT_FULLLOG=1 ZYPP_LOGFILE=zypper.log zypper -vv pa --unneeded

And then attach the output and the generated zypper.log file (you can compress those logs to save some bandwidth and space).

Regards,
Imo

Created attachment 850329 [details]
libzypp information

Created attachment 850330 [details]
zypper log file

Thank you, John.

@libzypp, with this information, could you explain why is this package reported as unneeded? It does not happen in my system (perhaps my system is the wrong one).

Thanks in advance!

If a package is listed as unneeded its not required/recommended by any other installed package and was not explicitely installed by the user either. 

From what I see its only recommended by patterns-microos-desktop-common, is that 
pattern installed or was it maybe removed?

(In reply to Benjamin Zeller from comment #10)
> If a package is listed as unneeded its not required/recommended by any other
> installed package and was not explicitely installed by the user either. 
> 
> From what I see its only recommended by patterns-microos-desktop-common, is
> that 
> pattern installed or was it maybe removed?

on my opensuse tumbleweed desktop, i am not using any of the microos features

(In reply to John Shand from comment #11)
> (In reply to Benjamin Zeller from comment #10)
> > If a package is listed as unneeded its not required/recommended by any other
> > installed package and was not explicitely installed by the user either. 
> > 
> > From what I see its only recommended by patterns-microos-desktop-common, is
> > that 
> > pattern installed or was it maybe removed?
> 
> on my opensuse tumbleweed desktop, i am not using any of the microos features

i also have the option for install recommended turned off in yast.  i have verity system turned on

(In reply to John Shand from comment #11)
> (In reply to Benjamin Zeller from comment #10)
> > If a package is listed as unneeded its not required/recommended by any other
> > installed package and was not explicitely installed by the user either. 
> > 
> > From what I see its only recommended by patterns-microos-desktop-common, is
> > that 
> > pattern installed or was it maybe removed?
> 
> on my opensuse tumbleweed desktop, i am not using any of the microos features

With 
> zypper se --requires-pkg distribution-logos-openSUSE-icons
you can check which packages require distribution-logos-openSUSE-icons, 
for me this is the result:

> S | Name                           | Summary                    | Type
> --+--------------------------------+----------------------------+--------
>   | patterns-microos-desktop-gnome | MicroOS GNOME Desktop      | package
>   | patterns-microos-desktop-kde   | MicroOS KDE Plasma Desktop | package

With 
> sudo grep distribution-logos-openSUSE-icons /var/log/zypp/history
you can see when the package was installed for you though.

zypper se --requires-pkg distribution-logos-openSUSE-icons command details:

S | Name                            | Summary                                 | Type
--+---------------------------------+-----------------------------------------+--------
  | patterns-microos-desktop-common | Common packages for Desktops on MicroOS | package

the grep command:

2021-06-13 16:28:05|install|distribution-logos-openSUSE-icons|20201117-3.1|noarch||repo-oss|59fb90a9f4661841ad2e00e2768c6f519fbb69add0de2d4ca74ade314b2b9e3b

(In reply to John Shand from comment #14)
> zypper se --requires-pkg distribution-logos-openSUSE-icons command details:
> 
> S | Name                            | Summary                               
> | Type
> --+---------------------------------+----------------------------------------
> -+--------
>   | patterns-microos-desktop-common | Common packages for Desktops on
> MicroOS | package
> 
> the grep command:
> 
> 2021-06-13
> 16:28:05|install|distribution-logos-openSUSE-icons|20201117-3.1|noarch||repo-
> oss|59fb90a9f4661841ad2e00e2768c6f519fbb69add0de2d4ca74ade314b2b9e3b

Right, so when you open up the history file and scroll upwards from that line you should see a entry that is named "command" instead of "install" , thats the zypper command that pulled in the package. 

Its possible that it was pulled in by a dependency which was removed by now, hence making it "unneeded". So this is not a zypper bug.

thanks for your help guys.  i have now deleted the package in question, restarted the computer.  no problems at all.

sorry for wasting time

Hi all,

John, no problem! Thanks Benjamin for your help. It is good that it has been clarified.

Regards,
Imo