Bug 197516

Summary: Unify Look'n'Feel
Product: [openSUSE] openSUSE 11.0 Reporter: Felix Rommel <felix.rommel>
Component: GNOMEAssignee: E-mail List <gnome-bugs>
Status: RESOLVED FIXED QA Contact: E-mail List <qa-bugs>
Severity: Enhancement    
Priority: P4 - Low CC: alekshs, andreas.hanke, federico, hpj, kontakt, suse-beta, vuntz
Version: Alpha 2   
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Hardware: i686   
OS: Other   
Whiteboard: gnome-usability
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Description Felix Rommel 2006-08-07 08:57:50 UTC
It would be great if you could unify the Look'n'Feel in the next SUSE version. Now, the theme of GTK/Gnome apps adjusts to the theme of KDE apps only if you work in KDE. But if you work in Gnome, your GTK/Gnome apps look different than KDE apps in default setting.

It should have the same Look'n'Feel by default in Gnome. My suggestions:

- QtCurve for GTK/KDE by default - with Shiny Glass setting it looks very good.
http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=40492

- Industrial/Tango icons for Gnome AND KDE by default.
You invented Tango/Industrial for unifying icons - why don't you use it?

It would be also be great if you could include the new Portland scripts in next SUSE version which solve the problems of having different open/save dialogs etc.

Right now it's too much work to unify the Look'n'Feel if you work in Gnome.

Plus you should really clean out the menu structure from SUSE 10.1 and other settings. For example, there are too many ways for installing/removing software etc. It's very confusing for a beginner.
Comment 1 Alexander Sicamiotis 2006-12-13 15:29:55 UTC
With Suse 10.1 I was pretty ok with integration. Now in 10.2 the option of using kde style in gtk apps is absent and it's all a bit messy.

This is the failed integration of Suse 10.2: http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/3356/failedintegrationdh1.png

This is the right integration of Suse 10.1:
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/6020/properintegrationkc1.png

I think that due to this sistuation, I'm also experiencing problems with antialiasing in GTK related apps that have a black background. (I think this is related to bug https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=193095 )

For example my firefox which uses black background/white text/blue link (overrides the default settings of websites) has some serious issues with the antialising and can only be cured by shutting the antialias, off. But then the rest of the system, is ugly (even if the rest of the system works white on black background). I'm writting this here and not on the antialias thread, because I suspect that the reason why 10.1 was ok with all these, is because it had a better integration of gnome/kde apps. Seems to me that this is a regression in both fronts (style / fonts) :(((
Comment 2 Alexander Sicamiotis 2006-12-13 16:24:17 UTC
I just realised that part of the problem, is my stupidity because I hadn't enabled the "Personal Settings - Appearance and Themes - Colors - Apply to non-KDE apps".

Some apps like firefox though, still do not cooperate in the ideal manner nor do the antialising works good in firefox with black bg and white letters. (this wasn't a problem in 10.1)

Comment 4 Rodrigo Moya 2007-11-14 16:33:10 UTC
Integrating the look & feel is hard, unless we always used the same themes, but as soon as the user chooses a different theme, we'll be hitting the problem. The only solution would be to have a GTK<->QT theme mapping, so when you change one, the other gets changed automatically, but this is very hard to do, given the huge number of themes the user has available. So not sure what to do in here.

As for antialiasing, the bug you mention seems to be fixed, so is this still a problem in 10.3?

As for xdg-utils, we already ship it in 10.3, so we should make sure apps use them as appropriate.

Moving this to 11.0.
Comment 5 Jakub Rusinek 2008-05-29 16:25:18 UTC
Still actuall?
Comment 6 Federico Mena Quintero 2008-05-30 17:01:11 UTC
Yes, we want to do something about unifying theme engines in the medium-term future.
Comment 7 Jakub Rusinek 2008-05-30 18:51:53 UTC
Trolltech introduced QGTKStyle - when Qt4 apps running in GNOME they take current GTK style :) .

For GTK apps in KDE4 probably nothing exists...

If you want to unify theme engines in both Qt and GTK then you would need to create something completely new...
Comment 8 Vincent Untz 2010-11-27 11:11:20 UTC
Things are much better nowadays. I don't think we need a generic bug to track this, but if you have specific examples of issues, please file them.

(things will be even better with gtk+ 3 where we'll switch to a css-based theming)