Bug 216217

Summary:	Gnome Control center, YaST control center and Application Browser
Product:	[openSUSE] openSUSE 10.2	Reporter:	Felix Rommel <felix.rommel>
Component:	GNOME	Assignee:	E-mail List <gnome-bugs>
Status:	RESOLVED WONTFIX	QA Contact:	E-mail List <qa-bugs>
Severity:	Enhancement
Priority:	P5 - None	CC:	andreas.hanke, forgotten_h13THG8RK1
Version:	Beta 1
Target Milestone:	---
Hardware:	i686
OS:	Other
Whiteboard:	gnome-usability
Found By:	Other	Services Priority:
Business Priority:		Blocker:	---
Marketing QA Status:	---	IT Deployment:	---

Description Felix Rommel 2006-10-30 11:28:37 UTC

openSUSE offers the greatest number of graphical configuration tools for Linux. But that means that it can get confusing when including so many configuration tools.

Right now there exist:

- the new Novell Gnome Control Center (in the following just called Gnome Control Center) which is nicely integrated into the new Novell Gnome main menu.

- the YaST Control Center which includes admin configuration tools.

- the new Novell Application Browser which includes some Gnome desktop config tools

Good:

- You already offer some YaST config tools in the Gnome Control Center like setting up "Graphic card and monitor".

Bad:

- Some config tools are included in the application browser where they do NOT belong to! For example energy settings or setting screen resolution should be in the Gnome Control Center!

- You developed a separate YaST2 Gnome control center, which is a good idea but confusing for users.

Solution:

- Move settings for screen resolution and energy settings etc. from Application Browser into the Gnome Control Center.

- Integrate ALL YaST2 config tools into the Gnome Control Center! That means that you only have to move the config tools from your new YaST2 Gnome Control Center into Gnome Control Center.

- Optionally you could include an admin password memory like it is integrated in other Linux distributions, where you insert your admin password and admin rights stay for example for the next 15 minutes. That means if you click on different config tools in Gnome Control Center you only have to insert the password once.

If you do the solution steps this would be a great success for a more friendly user experience.

Comment 2 Forgotten User h13THG8RK1 2007-10-11 16:12:20 UTC

The control center is so cluttered already... What about splitting the control center completely? A desktop and a system control center...
Both of them should have entries on main menu.
Btw, lets get rid of most of System application-browser entries.

Comment 3 JP Rosevear 2007-11-14 18:55:37 UTC

(In reply to comment #0 from Felix Rommel)
 in the Gnome Control Center like
> setting up "Graphic card and monitor".
> 
> Bad:
> 
> - Some config tools are included in the application browser where they do NOT
> belong to! For example energy settings or setting screen resolution should be
> in the Gnome Control Center!

Resolution is covered in bug 104074.  There are a number of per session/global conflicts that ConsoleKit should solve in openSUSE 11.0 as well.

> - You developed a separate YaST2 Gnome control center, which is a good idea but
> confusing for users.

Not really, yast has always been a separate beast.

> Solution:
> 
> - Move settings for screen resolution and energy settings etc. from Application
> Browser into the Gnome Control Center.

Power preferences could maybe move.
 
> - Integrate ALL YaST2 config tools into the Gnome Control Center! That means
> that you only have to move the config tools from your new YaST2 Gnome Control
> Center into Gnome Control Center.

Actually the reverse probably.  Currently from yast we have:

Bluetooth (Being dropped for openSUSE 11)
NetworkCard (to be replaced by NM 0.7)
Graphics Card and Mouse (to be obsoleted at some point by xrandr 1.3 probably)
User Management (not sure yet on this one).
 

> - Optionally you could include an admin password memory like it is integrated
> in other Linux distributions, where you insert your admin password and admin
> rights stay for example for the next 15 minutes. That means if you click on
> different config tools in Gnome Control Center you only have to insert the
> password once.

Yes, we'll get this from PolicyKit in openSUSE 11.0.

> If you do the solution steps this would be a great success for a more friendly
> user experience.

I think in general we have a couple of small bugs here about checking for the appropriateness of apps that appear in both CC and the app browser, and the appropriateness of the apps blended in the gnome cc from yast for opensuse (they were defined for the UI team for sled 10).

Bug 341691 and bug 341693.  The rest is WONTFIX.