Bug 299666

Summary:	NTP configuration: please correct warning message
Product:	[openSUSE] openSUSE 10.2	Reporter:	macias - <bluedzins>
Component:	YaST2	Assignee:	Katarina Machalkova <kmachalkova>
Status:	RESOLVED FIXED	QA Contact:	Jiri Srain <jsrain>
Severity:	Minor
Priority:	P5 - None
Version:	Final
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Hardware:	i586
OS:	Other
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Description macias - 2007-08-12 17:29:55 UTC

Please take a look here: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=297562#c1

But even if user uses NM, NTP configuration module displays scary message about delays when booting computer. It is not accurate -- please correct it adding if it is not the case with NM (quite difference: I didn't use NTP for ~ a year because this message has driven me off using it).

Comment 1 Katarina Machalkova 2007-08-22 15:59:01 UTC

I don't really understand what exactly is the desired output here. Should this message disappear completely, or should it just not pop up if the user has Network Manager?

Comment 2 macias - 2007-08-22 16:37:21 UTC

If you ask me... I would opt for the more elaborate message "If you don't use NetworkManager ...." and the rest is unchanged.

Reason: user does not use NM, tries to turn on NTP, see the current warning, remembers it, switch to NM and does not use NTP because of the previous warning.

So it is better warn, but also to inform (educate) user about advantages of NM.

Comment 3 Katarina Machalkova 2007-08-23 11:42:33 UTC

We're already after text freeze, so I cannot easily add/change the text in yast modules, as it would result in missing translations and confuse users.

I am more inclined to get rid of this popup completely as (in cooperation with usability team) we've done away with popups like this in several modules already and tried to find some alternative solution (e.g. move the information to the help text)

The popup message about delays on boot is more than 4 years old and I even cannot find a reason why it has been added :) (no reference to a bug or so). Now if almost half of the users use NM, I believe this message is rather obsolete
So: for 10.3 I'll drop this popup and for the next release, I'll add some warning to the help text.

Comment 4 Katarina Machalkova 2007-09-03 15:27:15 UTC

Fixed in yast2-ntp-client 2.15.8 

- Display 'ntpd started on boot' warning message only if we don't 
  use NM and/or no network device is started at boot time (#299666)

I'll move the content of this msg to the help text completely after 10.3