Bug 380955

Summary: drop obsolete parts of artwork, move the rest to branding
Product: [openSUSE] openSUSE 11.0 Reporter: Stanislav Brabec <sbrabec>
Component: GNOMEAssignee: Jakub Steiner <jimmac>
Status: RESOLVED FIXED QA Contact: E-mail List <qa-bugs>
Severity: Major    
Priority: P5 - None CC: sbrabec
Version: Beta 1   
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Hardware: Other   
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Description Stanislav Brabec 2008-04-17 16:05:21 UTC
gnome-themes still contains major part of ximian-artwork package. It increases size of the minimal GNOME installation for about 6MB.

These files should be reviewed, moved to related branding package, updated or dropped

tarball ximian-artwork-0.6.3 (gnome-themes and gtk-engines, 2006):

directory: galeon
status: obsolete, not packaged any more
Ximian Galeon theme.

directory: gdm
status: undecided
Novell Industrial Login Manager theme

directory: gnome-session
status: probably obsolete, but still in the default installation
Novell Linux Desktop and Ximian Desktop 2 splash screens

directory: gtk
status: partially obsolete
Industrial theme. gtk2 version is now part of gtk2-engines, gtk1 part is still part of gtk-engines (the whole tarball is used in the sources).

directory: icons
status: probably obsolete, but still in the default installation
Miscelaneous icons. icons with Ximian brand, icons with Novell Linux Desktop brand

directory: icons/Industrial
status: undecided
Industrial icon theme.

directory: metacity
status: undecided
Industrial metatheme XML file

directory: nautilus
status: undecided
Large set of icons: Ximian brand icons, GNOME brand icons, MIME type icons etc.

directory: nautilus/patterns
status: probably obsolete, but still in the default installation
Ximian brand background patterns

directory: nautilus/throbber
status: undecided
Rotating bubbles animation.

directory: photos
status: undecided
Nice Nature Series set of photo wallpapers. Still installed by default, but metafile is missing, so it is invisible for users. May be stuff for desktop-data-openSUSE-extra

directory: wallpapers
status: undecided
Set of miscelaneous wallpapers - nature, abstract, geometry, sky. Still installed by default, but metafile is missing, so it is invisible for users. May be stuff for desktop-data-openSUSE-extra

directory: xmms
status: obsolere
Industrial XMMS theme. May be stuff for OBS GNOME:GNOME1.


tarball spheres-and-crystals-0.7 (gnome-themes, 2003):
status: undecided
SphereCrystal theme for metacity, gtk2, icon theme and tiger.svg background


gtk-engines-cleanice-2.4.0 (gtk2-engines, 2005):
status: undecided
Cleanice gtk2 engine.


tarball bluebubble (gtk2-themes, 2002):
status: undecided
BlueBubble gtk2 theme.


And finally, these gtk1 engines are still maintained:
Clean (2000)
ColorStep (2000)
Industrial (2006)
Mac2 (2000)
NewPsychicAbilities (2000)
Step (1999)
XenoThin (2000)
Xenophilia (2000)

And these gtk1 engines as part of the official gtk-engines-0.12 set (2001):
Metal
Notif
Pixmap
Raleigh
Redmond95
Comment 1 Stanislav Brabec 2008-04-17 16:16:15 UTC
And finally there is a nice set of upstream cosmos images in gnome-screensaver, which may be available for background selector: /usr/share/pixmaps/backgrounds/cosmos

They also may be moved to optional package to make basic part of the package smaller.
Comment 2 JP Rosevear 2008-04-17 16:53:27 UTC
Any thoughts on this Jakub?  I think in general most of this can go.
Comment 3 Jakub Steiner 2008-04-18 20:06:33 UTC
The photos are great, but too dark or contrasty to be good wallpapers. Thumbs down.
Comment 4 Stanislav Brabec 2008-04-21 12:27:56 UTC
Jakub, are you talking about cosmos set (/usr/share/pixmaps/backgrounds/cosmos), Nature Series (/usr/share/pixmaps/backgrounds/novell/photos) or Set of miscelaneous wallpapers (/usr/share/pixmaps/backgrounds/novell) - nature, abstract, geometry, sky?
Comment 5 Jakub Steiner 2008-04-21 13:48:41 UTC
/usr/share/pixmaps/backgrounds/cosmos - Not good for wallpapers.
/usr/share/pixmaps/backgrounds/novell/photos - Good supplementary wallpapers
/usr/share/pixmaps/backgrounds/novell - I would drop these, only because they have been shipping for ages. Some don't sho their age, so if you think we don't provide enough extras, I suggest keeping these:

blueblobs2.png, Clouds.jpeg, Curvy2.png, 
Comment 6 JP Rosevear 2008-04-21 17:31:05 UTC
(In reply to comment #0 from Stanislav Brabec)
> gnome-themes still contains major part of ximian-artwork package. It increases
> size of the minimal GNOME installation for about 6MB.
> 
> These files should be reviewed, moved to related branding package, updated or
> dropped
> 
> tarball ximian-artwork-0.6.3 (gnome-themes and gtk-engines, 2006):
> 
> directory: galeon
> status: obsolete, not packaged any more
> Ximian Galeon theme.

Agreed, drop.

> directory: gdm
> status: undecided
> Novell Industrial Login Manager theme
> 
> directory: gnome-session
> status: probably obsolete, but still in the default installation
> Novell Linux Desktop and Ximian Desktop 2 splash screens

Agreed, drop.
 
> directory: gtk
> status: partially obsolete
> Industrial theme. gtk2 version is now part of gtk2-engines, gtk1 part is still
> part of gtk-engines (the whole tarball is used in the sources).

Not sure.

> directory: icons
> status: probably obsolete, but still in the default installation
> Miscelaneous icons. icons with Ximian brand, icons with Novell Linux Desktop
> brand

Should all be dropped, i think tango generally obsoleted everything here.

> directory: icons/Industrial
> status: undecided
> Industrial icon theme.

I think this needs to be kept, I believe Jakub has us default to Industrial icons with is tango + tweaks.

> directory: metacity
> status: undecided
> Industrial metatheme XML file

Probably can be dropped.

> directory: nautilus
> status: undecided
> Large set of icons: Ximian brand icons, GNOME brand icons, MIME type icons etc.

Not sure.

> directory: nautilus/patterns
> status: probably obsolete, but still in the default installation
> Ximian brand background patterns

Not sure.

> directory: nautilus/throbber
> status: undecided
> Rotating bubbles animation.

Not sures.

> directory: xmms
> status: obsolere
> Industrial XMMS theme. May be stuff for OBS GNOME:GNOME1.

Yes, drop.
 
> tarball spheres-and-crystals-0.7 (gnome-themes, 2003):
> status: undecided
> SphereCrystal theme for metacity, gtk2, icon theme and tiger.svg background

Not sure
 
> gtk-engines-cleanice-2.4.0 (gtk2-engines, 2005):
> status: undecided
> Cleanice gtk2 engine.

split to gtk-engines2-cleanice and move to G:C

> tarball bluebubble (gtk2-themes, 2002):
> status: undecided
> BlueBubble gtk2 theme.

Drop.
 
> And finally, these gtk1 engines are still maintained:
> Clean (2000)
> ColorStep (2000)
> Industrial (2006)
> Mac2 (2000)
> NewPsychicAbilities (2000)
> Step (1999)
> XenoThin (2000)
> Xenophilia (2000)
> 
> And these gtk1 engines as part of the official gtk-engines-0.12 set (2001):
> Metal
> Notif
> Pixmap
> Raleigh
> Redmond95

Not sure - probably move all of this to G:GNOME1 

Other opinions Jakub?

Comment 7 Jakub Steiner 2008-04-25 13:10:13 UTC
> Industrial gtk theme.

drop.

>icons

drop, except for the Industrial icon theme, which should remain default (inherits from tango-icon-theme).

> industrial metacity theme

Maybe we could keep that one around. There's a lack of decent metacity themes and this one is old, but still pretty good...

> nautilus, nautilus/patterns,  nautilus/throbber, 

drop, obsolete.

> SphereCrystal/*

I very much dislike that theme, but maybe it's good to keep the alternative for people with no taste :)

> gtk1 stuff

I'm not sure either. I honestly don't recall any gtk1 using app right now. I won't miss these.
Comment 8 Stanislav Brabec 2008-04-28 10:05:07 UTC
Filling drop request for gtk-engines:

Look and feel for deprecated GTK1 applications is an optional add-on. It is not tested and un maintained since 2001.

Moved to the Build Service GNOME:GNOME1.
Comment 9 Stanislav Brabec 2008-05-14 15:01:02 UTC
gtk2-engine-cleanice split out from gtk2-engines and moved to GNOME:Community.

spheres-and-crystals split out from gnome-themes and moved to GNOME:Community.

The rest of ximian-artwork will be disassembled and packages separately to not increase size of the minimal installation.
Comment 10 Stanislav Brabec 2008-05-14 17:01:26 UTC
To Jakub:

I have separated Industrial metatheme from ximian-artwork and created a tarball:
http://pack.suse.cz/sbrabec/bug380955/http://pack.suse.cz/sbrabec/bug380955/metatheme-industrial-0.6.4.tar.bz2

It would be nice to clean it a bit and make upsteam release.

Creating a new package in Factory.

Warnings of SuSE QA:
gtk2-metatheme-industrial.noarch: W: files-duplicate /usr/share/icons/Industrial/cursors/top_side /usr/share/icons/Industrial/cursors/based_arrow_up
gtk2-metatheme-industrial.noarch: W: files-duplicate /usr/share/icons/Industrial/cursors/hand2 /usr/share/icons/Industrial/cursors/hand1
gtk2-metatheme-industrial.noarch: W: files-duplicate /usr/share/icons/Industrial/cursors/double_arrow /usr/share/icons/Industrial/cursors/sb_v_double_arrow
gtk2-metatheme-industrial.noarch: W: files-duplicate /usr/share/icons/Industrial/cursors/bottom_side /usr/share/icons/Industrial/cursors/based_arrow_down
gtk2-metatheme-industrial.noarch: W: wrong-icon-size /usr/share/icons/Industrial/22x22/emblems/emblem-unreadable.png expected: 22x22 actual: 16x16
gtk2-metatheme-industrial.noarch: W: wrong-icon-size /usr/share/icons/Industrial/22x22/emblems/emblem-symbolic-link.png expected: 22x22 actual: 16x16
gtk2-metatheme-industrial.noarch: W: wrong-icon-size /usr/share/icons/Industrial/22x22/emblems/emblem-system.png expected: 22x22 actual: 16x16
gtk2-metatheme-industrial.noarch: W: wrong-icon-size /usr/share/icons/Industrial/22x22/emblems/emblem-photos.png expected: 22x22 actual: 16x16
gtk2-metatheme-industrial.noarch: W: wrong-icon-size /usr/share/icons/Industrial/22x22/emblems/emblem-readonly.png expected: 22x22 actual: 16x16
gtk2-metatheme-industrial.noarch: W: wrong-icon-size /usr/share/icons/Industrial/22x22/emblems/emblem-important.png expected: 22x22 actual: 16x16
gtk2-metatheme-industrial.noarch: W: wrong-icon-size /usr/share/icons/Industrial/22x22/emblems/emblem-favorite.png expected: 22x22 actual: 16x16
gtk2-metatheme-industrial.noarch: W: wrong-icon-size /usr/share/icons/Industrial/24x24/apps/gnome-spinner.png expected: 24x24 actual: 72x144
gtk2-metatheme-industrial.noarch: W: wrong-icon-size /usr/share/icons/Industrial/48x48/apps/gnome-spinner.png expected: 48x48 actual: 144x288
Comment 11 Stanislav Brabec 2008-05-14 17:18:23 UTC
Selected wallpapers and photos were moved desktop-data-openSUSE-extra. If I check it correctly, the review is complete, all files were either packaged separately, scheduled for dropping or moved to Build Service.

Reassigning to Jakub to decide about metatheme-industrial release, eventually fix QA warnings.
Comment 12 Jakub Steiner 2008-05-16 13:00:53 UTC
I'm sorry if I failed to mention to drop the Industrial cursor theme. It has been obsoleted by the DMZ cursor set. My apologies.
Comment 13 Jakub Steiner 2008-05-16 13:10:59 UTC
I'm not exactly sure where do the icon warnings come from? None of the emblems ship with Industrial icon theme anymore. The purposeful incorrect emblem size was a workaround for gnome bug #267694.

The latest Industrial icon theme is this one - ftp://forgeftp.novell.com/opensuse-art/openSUSE11/icons/industrial-icon-theme-11.0.5.tar.gz A request to package it has been filed as bug #369276
Comment 14 Stanislav Brabec 2008-05-19 13:05:04 UTC
I'll replace the icon theme and drop cursor theme.

It may be a good idea to release it altogether from a "compiled" tarball allowing to include translations.
Comment 15 Jakub Steiner 2008-05-26 10:32:34 UTC
So we're done with this one, right?
Comment 16 Stanislav Brabec 2008-05-26 10:56:14 UTC
I think that yes:


gtk2-metatheme-industrial:

* Mon May 19 2008 sbrabec@suse.cz
- Added latest Industrial icon theme (bnc#369276).

* Wed May 14 2008 sbrabec@suse.cz
- Split the Industrial metatheme out of gnome-themes and
  ximian-artwork (bnc#380955).


gtk2-theme-openSUSE:

* Tue May 20 2008 sbrabec@suse.cz
- Industrial icon theme renamed to Gilouche and moved from
  gtk2-metatheme-industrial (bnc#369276#c9).