Bug 381640

Summary: networkmanager sets offline-mode, during ppp connection
Product: [openSUSE] openSUSE 11.1 Reporter: Juergen Weigert <jw>
Component: Mobile DevicesAssignee: Christian Zoz <zoz>
Status: RESOLVED INVALID QA Contact: E-mail List <qa-bugs>
Severity: Minor    
Priority: P5 - None CC: behlert
Version: Beta 5   
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Hardware: x86   
OS: openSUSE 11.1   
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Description Juergen Weigert 2008-04-19 10:51:05 UTC
I click on the kinternet icon, to start a dialup connection.
While connected via smpppd:
 networkmanager still shows its 'Disconnected' icon.
Right click on the icon gives me a menue that has 
'Options-> switch to online mode' greyed out, but
'Options-> switch to offline mode' available.
This is an apparently inconsistent state.

Firefox starts up in 'Offline Mode' under these conditions.
Comment 1 Forgotten User ZhJd0F0L3x 2008-04-22 07:04:01 UTC
sorry, this is not "mobile devices". this is a problem in the networkmanager concept: NetworkManager assumes that it is the only one to manage the network, but it is unable to do that. No idea how this could be fixed. Best would be to disable the offline mode switching in firefox.
Comment 2 Juergen Weigert 2008-04-22 08:59:03 UTC
Thanks Seife; Bugzilla does not accept gnome-maintainers@suse.de or gnome-maintainers@novell.com -- reassigned to Ingo for further dispatch.
Comment 3 Christian Zoz 2008-04-22 09:39:22 UTC
This will not be changed in 10.3, because there is no simply way to change this. And we have to concentrate on 11.0 with NM 0.7.

For 11.0 this behavior would be a valid bug.
Comment 4 Juergen Weigert 2008-12-10 10:20:48 UTC
My bad, forgot to reopen this for 11.0.
Comment 5 Juergen Weigert 2008-12-10 10:26:03 UTC
I still see this issue in SLED11-Beta5 (using Gnome for a change)

Networkmanager is running, but it seems nm-applet has no button to trigger dialin.
I am using cinternet -A to do so. 
while connected via smpppd, nm-applet shows its disconnected icon.

Firefox believes that I am working offline, and wants me to hit File->Work Offline and then Try Again.

Comment 6 Tambet Ingo 2008-12-10 10:44:07 UTC
NM does not and never will support cinternet/smpppd/kinternet/yast/... dialup connections. There is however support for GSM/CDMA connections built in NM 0.7 (that's opensuse 11.0 and later). There has not been enough interest in landline dialup support to make it worth to implement.
Comment 7 Juergen Weigert 2008-12-10 11:35:38 UTC
Reassigning for discussing comment#3
Comment 8 Juergen Weigert 2008-12-10 11:38:19 UTC
Christian, I believe this issue is beyond networkmanager. Please advise.

My smpppd connects to my cellphone via bluetooth. No landlines involved.
Is it possible to switch the systems online / offline mode manually?
Comment 9 Christian Zoz 2009-01-19 12:36:10 UTC
It should be possible to set it on/offline manually. At least NM does this via dbus messages. Should be possible to send this messages. Maybe there is even a better way.
Tambet, can you help?

But this unfortunately does not validate the bug report itself. What you are doing is just unsupported. Talk to PM about that.

You should control your network connection via NM. If that is not possible, please file a bug report or feature request for that.
Comment 10 Tambet Ingo 2009-01-19 12:59:06 UTC
You can't tell NM "set network state "on"". Only NM itself can do that because once NM has an active connection, it also needs to know everything else about the connection: the active device name, driver, address(es), route(s), DNS(s). In other words, once you know all that, and also provide monitoring, you've implemented support for your device in NM. And that's exactly what's missing. 

Bluetooth isn't supported in NM. The upstream bug to track it:

http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=432774

There's also a FATE entry for bluetooth support, id 302311.
Comment 11 Forgotten User ZhJd0F0L3x 2009-01-22 11:41:41 UTC
So, executive summary: SLE11 does not support dialup via Bluetooth.
Stefan Behlert, please mention this prominently in the release notes, since I don't want to drown in bluetooth "bugreports" for that missing feature.
Comment 12 Stefan Behlert 2009-01-22 16:14:10 UTC
I'm not aware of a 'this feature is not impolemented' section in the release notes. Any suggestion of a text snippet?