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Bugzilla – Full Text Bug Listing |
| Summary: | gnome desktop no background images except green & blue | ||
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| Product: | [openSUSE] openSUSE 11.0 | Reporter: | Casual J. Programmer <casualprogrammer> |
| Component: | Patterns | Assignee: | Christoph Thiel <cthiel> |
| Status: | RESOLVED FIXED | QA Contact: | E-mail List <qa-bugs> |
| Severity: | Normal | ||
| Priority: | P3 - Medium | CC: | kde-maintainers, mls, sbrabec, schubi, vuntz |
| Version: | Factory | ||
| Target Milestone: | --- | ||
| Hardware: | x86 | ||
| OS: | openSUSE 11.0 | ||
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| Found By: | Beta-Customer | Services Priority: | |
| Business Priority: | Blocker: | --- | |
| Marketing QA Status: | --- | IT Deployment: | --- |
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Description
Casual J. Programmer
2008-05-26 07:17:04 UTC
I guess it's now in desktop-data-openSUSE-extra, can you try it? sounds good, looks good. so there needs a dependency to be added to gnome-desktop i guess ? Hrm, not really sure that we want to have them installed by default. cc'ing Stanislav. I think people are used to being offered a choice of backgrounds, one probably could also add an installer link to the add button. desktop-data-openSUSE contain default wallpaper for both GTK and GNOME and several color variants plus several backgrounds from older distros. If you want more, desktop-data-openSUSE-extra contains several other optional wallpapers, and desktop-data-openSUSE-extra-gnome contains the four images daily presentation (the default, if installed). No, we don't want dependency enlarging minimal installation for about 40MB of optional data. It uses Enhances/Recommends RPM tag, but AFAIK it is not yet handled by zypp. "desktop-data-openSUSE contain default wallpaper for both GTK and GNOME and several color variants plus several backgrounds from older distros." not true at the moment, see comment #0 "Enhances/Suggests" will not be regarded by libzypp: http://en.opensuse.org/Software_Management/Dependencies#Weak_dependencies In this case, it is a WONTFIX. We don't want to install these packages by default. When Enhances will be handled sometimes in future, this package will be offered as an optional enhancement. please make sure to read as well understand an issue reported before closing. until very recently there were a few photos available as backgrounds to choose from, presently there are 5 almost identical green motives and 2 blue ones. this report originally was just pointing that out. The effect being, that people using other backgrounds are left with a grey desktop, as existing motives are deleted. I don't think that this is intended behaviour, or else you _really_ want to turn the audience off. We want to keep the default GNOME/KDE installation as small as possible. There is no way, how the package manager could inspect all home directories and guess, which images are used by particular users. To Coolo: Is there any way, how to advertise additional artwork during the installation without enlarging of the minimal installation? Greying out the background, if the selected image is not present, is another problem. Now it is worked around in /usr/bin/gnome and GNOME should revert to the default background. See bug 383775 for more. I don't know about KDE, for GNOME the background file used is in Gconf editor under /desktop/gnome/applications/background/picture_filename the "work around" is exactly what we do for KDE since several releases now. If the wallpaper is not present, we change it to default. openSUSE GNOME now does the same. But the reporter thinks, that we should provide more backgrounds than only the openSUSE branded green and blue backgroungs. We provide them, but these packages are not intalled by default. Should we do it? Should we provide "Additional artwork" or "Optional Features" pattern? I don't think it's worth the hassle to special case the situation where a wallpaper is now packaged in -xtras. Keep it simple. Falling back to the default if missing sounds a good enough solution to me. I don't think I get the idea here. Nobody I know is using the standard background, neither in Windows nor in Linux. There were only a few flower pictures anyway in the old default setup ( we are taking KB not MB ), which is odd enough as otherwise nobody cares for resources to add bells and whistles. Not only are these removed, but user is left in the dark where to look for them. That's what I call user friendlyness.. We are talking about 45.4 MB (39 wallpapers in size of 37.1 MB in desktop-data-openSUSE and one desktop presentation in size of 8.3 MB in desktop-data-openSUSE-gnome). Nature images you are interested in are about 1/4 of that size. Isn't there just a split-provides missing in desktop-data-openSUSE-extra, so that it gets installed if you update from an old version? It's about #17 and about having more than green in the default installation. #17 is a clear no-brainer, but how many MB to reserve for wallpapers is another. (this is not exactly the latest build, but ~ beta2 and kdebase4-wallpapers wasn't even installed) desktop-data-openSUSE-11.0-34 default-1600x1200.jpg 21 desktop-data-openSUSE-11.0-34 default-1920x1200.jpg 21 desktop-data-openSUSE-11.0-34 suse101-1600x1200.jpg 177789 desktop-data-openSUSE-11.0-34 suse101-1920x1200.jpg 200754 desktop-data-openSUSE-11.0-34 suse102-1600x1200.jpg 203062 desktop-data-openSUSE-11.0-34 suse102-1920x1200.jpg 236256 desktop-data-openSUSE-11.0-34 suse103-1600x1200.jpg 327726 desktop-data-openSUSE-11.0-34 suse103-1920x1200.jpg 344600 desktop-data-openSUSE-extra-11.0-34 Bear.jpg 529053 desktop-data-openSUSE-extra-11.0-34 Boulders.jpg 1468295 desktop-data-openSUSE-extra-11.0-34 Green.jpg 701460 desktop-data-openSUSE-extra-11.0-34 Haze.jpg 598361 desktop-data-openSUSE-extra-11.0-34 Hillside.jpg 1631900 desktop-data-openSUSE-extra-11.0-34 Mountains.jpg 511019 desktop-data-openSUSE-extra-11.0-34 Naptime.jpg 345376 desktop-data-openSUSE-extra-11.0-34 Relax.jpg 401269 desktop-data-openSUSE-extra-11.0-34 Silence.jpg 374125 desktop-data-openSUSE-extra-11.0-34 Soaring.jpg 688666 desktop-data-openSUSE-extra-11.0-34 SpringFlowers.jpg 396781 desktop-data-openSUSE-extra-11.0-34 Turtle.jpg 463276 desktop-data-openSUSE-extra-11.0-34 Wolf.jpg 518546 kdeartwork4-wallpapers-4.0.2-3 alien-night.jpg 341826 kdeartwork4-wallpapers-4.0.2-3 Appropriately-Left-Handed-2.jpg 60519 kdeartwork4-wallpapers-4.0.2-3 blue_angle_swirl.jpg 11826 kdeartwork4-wallpapers-4.0.2-3 bluegreencrisscross.jpg 18662 kdeartwork4-wallpapers-4.0.2-3 fulmine.jpg 77538 kdeartwork4-wallpapers-4.0.2-3 gold_crinkle.jpg 28581 kdeartwork4-wallpapers-4.0.2-3 kraftwurm.jpg 141749 kdeartwork4-wallpapers-4.0.2-3 kubical.png 201592 kdeartwork4-wallpapers-4.0.2-3 mystical_rightturn.jpg 161874 kdeartwork4-wallpapers-4.0.2-3 Superfluous-Organ-1.jpg 35776 kdeartwork4-wallpapers-4.0.2-3 The-Good-Times-1.jpg 50599 kdeartwork4-wallpapers-4.0.2-3 vegetative_fog.jpg 8045 kdeartwork4-wallpapers-4.0.2-3 Water01.jpg 29801 kdebase3-3.5.9-20 All-Good-People-1.jpg 50280 kdebase3-3.5.9-20 alta-badia.jpg 237290 kdebase3-3.5.9-20 blue-bend.jpg 160312 kdebase3-3.5.9-20 Chicken-Songs-2.jpg 20123 kdebase3-3.5.9-20 default_blue.jpg 133918 kdebase3-3.5.9-20 default_gears.jpg 52118 kdebase3-3.5.9-20 floating-leaves.jpg 400999 kdebase3-3.5.9-20 KDE34.png 77853 kdebase3-3.5.9-20 No-Ones-Laughing-3.jpg 30730 kdebase3-3.5.9-20 seaofconero.jpg 196193 kdebase3-3.5.9-20 soft-green.jpg 203894 kdebase3-3.5.9-20 stelvio.jpg 277508 kdebase3-3.5.9-20 sunshine-after-the-rain.jpg 224116 kdebase3-3.5.9-20 Time-For-Lunch-2.jpg 32471 kdebase3-3.5.9-20 Totally-New-Product-1.jpg 61832 kdebase3-3.5.9-20 triplegears.jpg 117600 kdebase3-3.5.9-20 Won-Ton-Soup-3.jpg 40432 kdebase3-SuSE-11.0-72 root-logo.png 24282 Interestingly enough, KDE3 will have a huge set of wallpapers installed, neither kde4's wallpapers nor gnome's are installed by default. But as you can clearly see, we're not talking KB but MB. And neither gnome's nor kde4's wallpapers would fit on the live cd. First stop: having them on the DVD at least. I'm heavily undecided, for KDE it doesn't matter that much as the user gets a nice button to download new artwork directly from kde-look, but I'm not aware of any such button in GNOME and Casual is right, that giving your desktop an individual touch is pretty much standard for many users. FYI: Since openSUSE 11.0, there is only one GNOME specific wallpaper (distributed with upstream GNOME) and one openSUSE specific GNOME wallpaper presentation. All other wallpaper in desktop-data-openSUSE{,-extra} are shared between KDE and GNOME.
I guess it should not be so complicated to patch GNOME Background Properties to display "Install extra openSUSE wallpapers (45.4MB)" (if they are not installed) calling "gnomesu yast2 -i desktop-data-openSUSE-extra". (But it's too late to get it translated.)
I could make it recommended in the patterns and leave it out on live cd. this way it will appear in "recommended packages" group, but not be present on live cd. (In reply to comment #19 from Stanislav Brabec) > FYI: Since openSUSE 11.0, there is only one GNOME specific wallpaper > (distributed with upstream GNOME) and one openSUSE specific GNOME wallpaper > presentation. All other wallpaper in desktop-data-openSUSE{,-extra} are shared > between KDE and GNOME. FWIW, we also have gnome-backgrounds, which are upstream additional backgrounds. Agreeing with Coolo So, i think this is a patterns issue then. I also prepared yet another packages with a set of about 800 additional GPL backgrounds + wallpapers (seamless tiles) in OBS: propaganda00-propaganda14 Any of them can be added to openSUSE as well. Which package is missing from the patterns? Currently we suggest gnome-backgrounds in GNOME-DESKTOP. Most probably these two: desktop-data-openSUSE-extra (both desktops, 45.4MB) desktop-data-openSUSE-extra-gnome (GNOME, 8.3MB) JP *ping* ;) Not sure what I'm supposed to answer here. #26 appears to give the relevant info. desktop-data-openSUSE-extra is being suggested in X11 already, it's online-only. desktop-data-openSUSE-extra-gnome is now recommended in GNOME-BASIS-OPT. |