Bug 412938

Summary: No migration path from KDE 3.4 to KDE 4.x
Product: [openSUSE] openSUSE 11.3 Reporter: Axel Braun <axel.braun>
Component: KDE4 ApplicationsAssignee: E-mail List <kde-maintainers>
Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX QA Contact: E-mail List <qa-bugs>
Severity: Normal    
Priority: P2 - High CC: ctrippe, cyberbeat, forgotten_kHYb7eJGnH, gecobb, joerg.steffens, lars.behrens, lavrinenko_alex, suse-beta, wstephenson
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Description Axel Braun 2008-07-29 15:27:44 UTC
I have KDE 3.5.9 and 4.1rc installed in parallel.
There is nothing that helpsusers to migrate their 3.x settings (mails/news/....) from the 3.x to the 4.x world. Some kind of migration tool/script or documentation for whole KDE is required.Ifile dthis bug with KDE, they claim it has to do with the renaming of .kde to .kde4 by openSUSE, see
http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=167660
Comment 1 Lubos Lunak 2008-07-30 13:22:47 UTC

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 396134 ***
Comment 2 Lubos Lunak 2008-07-30 13:23:40 UTC
Let's try the other way around.
Comment 3 Lubos Lunak 2008-07-30 13:24:02 UTC
*** Bug 396134 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 4 pragnesh radadiya 2008-09-20 05:00:53 UTC
*** Bug 424089 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 5 Lubos Lunak 2008-11-20 15:37:55 UTC
There is a migration tool in openSUSE11.1, please file specific bugreports if there are any problems with it.
Comment 6 Axel Braun 2008-12-07 17:26:42 UTC
(In reply to comment #5 from Lubos Lunak)
> There is a migration tool in openSUSE11.1, please file specific bugreports if
> there are any problems with it.

I have installed 11.1rc1, but cant find anything. Can you point me to this program?

Comment 7 Axel Braun 2009-09-24 08:15:34 UTC
According to https://features.opensuse.org/306658 problems should be filed in this bug.
According to the a.m. link, a migration tool should exist, but its functionality is either defective or just missing. 

Following case on 11.2 milestone 7:

Homedirectory created new. Hidden directories are copied from an existing user, esp. ~/.kde, but not ~/.kde4
Thereafter new user is created and the above home directory is assigned.
Log on with the new user, start kmail: Instead of having the settings from kmail/KDE3 converted to kmail/KDE4, the assistant pops up to create new mail accounts. Nothing is converted.

As more and more users will go from KDE3 to KDE4, which is the default desktop in 11.2, it is crucial to have a proper migration of all settings. For this I changed the importance to critical.
Comment 8 Stephan Binner 2009-09-24 12:18:41 UTC
Don't play with priorities unless you will work on it: http://en.opensuse.org/Bugs/Definitions
Comment 9 Lars Behrens 2009-12-01 11:42:50 UTC
Yes, a migration tool is extremely important! I can't go hunting config files in all of my user's ~ dirs (kmail, knode filters, korganizer dates, ..). In the current state 11.2 won't be usable for us.

For Debian there's "kaboom", maybe could take profit of that.
Comment 10 Forgotten User kHYb7eJGnH 2010-08-14 10:21:02 UTC
There seems to be discussion in open FATE about there being a migration tool already in place. Is that right or is this bug still valid for 11.3?

Thanks?
Steve
Comment 11 H. Hansen 2010-08-14 11:00:39 UTC
I also read the opendate entry, and tried. but there still seems not useful migration tool for 11.3. and kde blames opensuse for using .kde4 instead of .kde as directory name.

Still have to manually create new kmail4 accounts, especially no way to take over smtp-accounts via config-files.
Comment 12 Axel Braun 2010-08-14 14:48:03 UTC
(In reply to comment #10)
> There seems to be discussion in open FATE about there being a migration tool
> already in place. Is that right or is this bug still valid for 11.3?

Well, the discussion in openFATE was closed as it was claimed to have a migration tool in place. If that is not working correctly, a bug should be filed in Bugzilla - THIS IS actually the bug. But nothing is happening on it. So if H.Hansen says it is not working, then I assume the bug is still valid for 11.3
Comment 13 Forgotten User kHYb7eJGnH 2010-08-14 21:33:56 UTC
Updated to 11.3
Comment 14 Christian Boltz 2010-11-27 21:35:46 UTC
*** Bug 527260 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 15 Christian Boltz 2010-11-27 21:39:12 UTC
Well, there is a very basic migration tool:
    cp -a ~/.kde ~/.kde4
This worked for me for settings, Akregator archives, bookmarks etc. - at least I didn't miss anything.

Be warned that
- it's a while since I did that (IIRC on a 11.1 system)
- you should do that only if you do not have a ~/.kde4 yet
Comment 16 Axel Braun 2010-11-28 10:03:51 UTC
Plain copy of the ~/.kde path is indeed a way, but as some assignments and settings have changed, you may not find everything later on.

I have summarized the main things to migrate in a little copy script, which you can find here:
http://kdemigrator.sourceforge.net

It is definitely not complete or perfect, but should save you some manual work.
Comment 17 Christian Trippe 2012-01-28 13:39:53 UTC
I guess this bug is now WONTFIX as probably nobody cares for KDE3-> KDE4 migration any longer.