Bug 486755

Please attach the relevant information requested on the webpages:

http://en.opensuse.org/Bugs:X

and

http://en.opensuse.org/Bugs/SaX2

(Information on how ubuntu configured X for you might be helpful, but probably isn't necessary.)

hm,
I'm on factory and on a MacBookPro with a german keyboard.
multimedia-keys are usually not dependant on the x keyboard layout
but on other things like the used desktop or other apps like pommed
to drive actions when the keys are pressed.

Alt-e gives € here, but ALT is on the apple-key
currently I have the keyboard layout set in KDE,
it displays the used commandline as:
setxkbmap -model macbook79 -layout de -variant
"Keyboard model MacBook/MacBookPro (intl)", Layout "de"

Thanks for your input, Rudi. Still we need some more information by the reporter.

(In reply to comment #1)
> (Information on how ubuntu configured X for you might be helpful, but probably
> isn't necessary.)

Actually the output of 'setxkbmap -print' on Ubuntu would be *very* helpful.

Still waiting for a response for at least a week. Please reopen once
you can provide the requested feedback. Thanks.

Sorry for the late response. You were simply to fast in responding - I will try to clear up the report and fill it with details:


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Ubuntu:

$ setxkbmap -print
xkb_keymap {
	xkb_keycodes  { include "evdev+aliases(qwertz)"	};
	xkb_types     { include "complete"	};
	xkb_compat    { include "complete"	};
	xkb_symbols   { include "pc+de(deadgraveacute)+inet(evdev)"	};
	xkb_geometry  { include "pc(pc105)"	};
};

Behaviour:
"é" is working
ALT is on Alt
€ and @ are on right-Alt-E and right-Alt-Q
{[]} are on right-Alt-(7890)
(^°) and (<>) are exchanged, that is <WRONG> as well. 

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openSuse:

First:
During installation it was not recognized by the setup application that the package "pbbuttonsd" must be installed. After installing this, the problems were greatly reduced!!! I believe, this is where Ubuntu passes openSuse. 

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Second (openSuse)

setxkbmap -print
xkb_keymap {
        xkb_keycodes  { include "xfree86+aliases(qwertz)"       };
        xkb_types     { include "complete"      };
        xkb_compat    { include "complete"      };
        xkb_symbols   { include "pc+de(deadgraveacute)+inet(logitech_g15)"      };
        xkb_geometry  { include "pc(pc104)"     };
};
Using this I have the following situations:
ALT is on Alt
"é" is working.
€ and @ are on right-Alt-E and right-Alt-Q
{[]} are on right-Alt-(7890)
(^°) and (<>) are exchanged, that is <WRONG> as well. 

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It would be good to have ALT on Cmd
€ and @ may be on right-Cmd-E and right-Cmd-Q or on Alt-E/Alt-L (latter is better)
Also the brackets {[]} could be Apple-like (Alt-7890), the same goes for "~|" etc.

The problem not having ALT on Cmd is 1st, that I am not accustomed to this (but one can get used to it) and 2nd and more importantly: consistently. When switchign from X to shell #2 I have to press Ctrl+Alt+2, when switching from any text shell I have to press Ctrl+Cmd+2. 

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3rd: (openSuse)

setxkbmap -print
xkb_keymap {
        xkb_keycodes  { include "xfree86+aliases(qwertz)"       };
        xkb_types     { include "complete"      };
        xkb_compat    { include "complete"      };
        xkb_symbols   { include "pc+de(nodeadkeys)"     };
        xkb_geometry  { include "pc(pc105)"     };
};

The same as case 2, but nodeadkeys

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4th: openSuse

setxkbmap -print
xkb_keymap {
        xkb_keycodes  { include "macintosh+aliases(qwertz)"     };
        xkb_types     { include "complete+numpad(mac)"  };
        xkb_compat    { include "complete"      };
        xkb_symbols   { include "pc+macintosh_vndr/de(nodeadkeys)+altwin(swap_lalt_lwin)+level3(alt_switch)+inet(apple)"        };
        xkb_geometry  { include "macintosh(macintosh)"  };
};

ALT is on Cmd -> good
"é" is NOT working -> nodeadkeys
€ and @ are on Alt-E and Alt-L -> Mac-like good
{[]}~| are Mac-like -> good
(^°) and (<>) are exchanged, that is <WRONG> as well. 

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4th: openSuse

setxkbmap -print
xkb_keymap {
        xkb_keycodes  { include "macintosh+aliases(qwertz)"     };
        xkb_types     { include "complete+numpad(mac)"  };
        xkb_compat    { include "complete"      };
        xkb_symbols   { include "pc+macintosh_vndr/de(deadgraveacute)+altwin(swap_lalt_lwin)+level3(alt_switch)+inet(apple)"    };
        xkb_geometry  { include "macintosh(macintosh)"  };
};

ALMOST NOTHING WORKS!!!

ALT is on Alt; but I can not switch to a text shell anymore by either Ctrl+Alt+2 or Ctrl+Cmd+2!!!!
"'e" is NOT working -> WRONG (deadgraveacute)
€ and @ are NOT working (neither on Alt+L, Cmd+L, Alt+Q, Cmd+Q, Right-Cmd+Q, Right-Cmd+Q)
{[]}~| are NOT working
(^°) and (<>) are exchanged, that is <WRONG> as well.

I forgot to reopne this bug report

Could you give the settings of Rüdiger Oertel a try? Thanks.

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Settings of Ruediger Oertel:

setxkbmap -model macbook79 -layout de -variant "Keyboard model MacBook/MacBookPro (intl)", Layout"de"

setxkbmap -print
xkb_keymap {
        xkb_keycodes  { include "macintosh+macintosh(goodmap)+aliases(qwertz)"  };
        xkb_types     { include "complete+numpad(mac)"  };
        xkb_compat    { include "complete"      };
        xkb_symbols   { include "pc+macintosh_vndr/de+altwin(swap_lalt_lwin)+level3(alt_switch)+inet(apple)+level3(enter_switch)"       };
        xkb_geometry  { include "macintosh(macbook79)"  };
};

ALT is on Cmd -> good
"é" is working -> good
€ and @ are on Alt-E and Alt-L -> Mac-like good
{[]}~| are Mac-like -> good
(^°) and (<>) are exchanged, that is <WRONG> as well. 

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For me, this is the best solution so far.
Still I have 2 issues with it:
(1) The ^°/<> keys are wrong
(2) Some assistance would be good. Using sax2 I would never figure out to chose this config :(


Thanks for all the advice!

> For me, this is the best solution so far.
> Still I have 2 issues with it:
> (1) The ^°/<> keys are wrong

Rudi, same for you? Any hints?

no issues with these keys here.

On my MacBookPro, these keys are:
 "<>" (between "left SHIFT" and "y" keys)
 "^°" (left of the "1!" key)
and both are working correctly.

However, this is no longer the setting I had above (currently
I've lost the "nodeadkeys" setting and didn't find the time yet
to find out how to enable that again).

Current:
> setxkbmap -print
xkb_keymap {
        xkb_keycodes  { include "evdev+aliases(qwertz)" };
        xkb_types     { include "complete+numpad(mac)"  };
        xkb_compat    { include "complete"      };
        xkb_symbols   { include "pc+macintosh_vndr/de+altwin(swap_lalt_lwin)+level3(alt_switch)+inet(evdev)"    };
        xkb_geometry  { include "macintosh(macbook79)"  };
};

Rudi, can you still figure out the setxkbmap command line?

okay, without "nodeadkeys":
setxkbmap -model macbook79 -layout de -variant

resulting setting:
# setxkbmap -print
xkb_keymap {
        xkb_keycodes  { include "evdev+aliases(qwertz)" };
        xkb_types     { include "complete+numpad(mac)"  };
        xkb_compat    { include "complete"      };
        xkb_symbols   { include "pc+macintosh_vndr/de+altwin(swap_lalt_lwin)+level3(alt_switch)+inet(evdev)"    };
        xkb_geometry  { include "macintosh(macbook79)"  };
};


with "nodeadkeys":
setxkbmap -model macbook79 -layout de -variant nodeadkeys

resulting setting:
#  setxkbmap -print
xkb_keymap {
        xkb_keycodes  { include "evdev+aliases(qwertz)" };
        xkb_types     { include "complete+numpad(mac)"  };
        xkb_compat    { include "complete"      };
        xkb_symbols   { include "pc+macintosh_vndr/de(nodeadkeys)+altwin(swap_lalt_lwin)+level3(alt_switch)+inet(evdev)"        };
        xkb_geometry  { include "macintosh(macbook79)"  };
};

Thanks, Rudi! Sebastian, could you give these settings a try?

I can not reproduce this:

setxkbmap -model macbook79 -layout de -variant ""

gives me a different layout, that is:
xkb_keymap {
        xkb_keycodes  { include "macintosh+macintosh(goodmap)+aliases(qwertz)"  };
        xkb_types     { include "complete+numpad(mac)"  };
        xkb_compat    { include "complete"      };
        xkb_symbols   { include "pc+macintosh_vndr/de+altwin(swap_lalt_lwin)+level3(alt_switch)+inet(apple)+level3(enter_switch)"       };
        xkb_geometry  { include "macintosh(macbook79)"  };
};

Still, it seems that this is deadgraveacute (é works) and </^ are still wrong.

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Using the second option 
$  setxkbmap -model macbook79 -layout de -variant nodeadkeys
leads to

xkb_keymap {
        xkb_keycodes  { include "macintosh+macintosh(goodmap)+aliases(qwertz)"  };
        xkb_types     { include "complete+numpad(mac)"  };
        xkb_compat    { include "complete"      };
        xkb_symbols   { include "pc+macintosh_vndr/de(nodeadkeys)+altwin(swap_lalt_lwin)+level3(alt_switch)+inet(apple)+level3(enter_switch)"   };
        xkb_geometry  { include "macintosh(macbook79)"  };
};

Again this differs from Ruediger's setting :(

No é gives ´e (nodeadkeys) and < and ° are still on the wrong keys.

Please note:
I do not use a MacBookPro
I use a MacPro and a recent iMac with an external aluminium USB keyboard (model number A1243)

Hmm. Rudi is already using xkeyboard-config 1.5. You can find it on 

  http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/X11:/XOrg/openSUSE_11.1/noarch/

Could you give it a try? Thanks.

> Please note:
> I do not use a MacBookPro
> I use a MacPro and a recent iMac with an external aluminium USB keyboard (model
> number A1243)

Ouch!

Using version 1.5 I can reproduce Rüdiger's output. Still, the keys <° are wrong.

I tried most of the other keys and checked if they behave like expected. The only issue concerns multimedia keys. 

On MacOS, the key <F10> means [Mute]. [F10] is obtained by <Cmd>+<F10>. 
The current setting regarding the F-keys is okay in terms of <F10> means [F10]
The problem is: I don't have any idea how to invoke [Mute]. Shouldn't it be that <Cmd>+<F10> means [Mute]?

I'm afraid I don't have the appropriate knowledge and hardware for getting this fixed. :-(

I suggest to discuss this on one of the opensuse mailing lists and add it to the documentation of our opensuse wiki once a solution has been found. Thanks for the report.