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Vadim Plessky
2010-03-07 21:53:07 UTC
Created attachment 347007 [details]
Xorg.0.log from Fedora12
As I could not get OpenSUSE 11.3 booting and responding, I launched Fedora 12 (i686).
It is working ok on the same system.
Xorg.0.log from its setup (Live CD) is attached.
Kernel used is 2.6.31 (2.6.31.5-127.fc12)
Hope this would help to track bug in OpenSUSE 11.3 MS3.
I have created Smolt profile on Smolts.org server for MSI S271 notebook- http://www.smolts.org/client/show/pub_4f750c14-1590-481e-9d0a-24584ddc7a7c Note that kernel (in Fedora12) has been updated to 2.6.32 via automatic update procedure, but this has no (visual) difference so far. Xorg and KDE works with both 2.6.31 and 2.6.32 kernels. sysinfo:/ in Fedora 12 shows following info on video subsystem: Vendor: DRI R300 Project Model: Mesa DRI R300 (RS400 5975) 20090101 NO-TCL DRI2 Driver: 1.5 Mesa 7.7.1-DEVEL Kernel was updated to 2.6.32.9-70.fc12.i686 Would try OpenSUSE 11.3 Milestone4, hope this problem would be fixed Created attachment 349661 [details]
OpenSUSE 11.3 MS3 X0rg.0.log file
OpenSUSE 11.3 Milestone3 X0rg.0.log file
To get it, I switched to text terminal during boot process, logged in, and switched to Init 3 mode before KDE booted.
It seems X was able to start, but something else causes system hang.
Created attachment 349662 [details]
dmesg output / OpenSUSE 11.3 MS3
dmesg output from OpenSUSE 11.3 Milestone 3.
System boots to Runlevel 5 (KDE4), than hangs.
Maybe KDE4 desktop effects are enabled by default. No idea how to disable them when the system already freezes during startup though. :-( On most of the systems I tested KDE4 effects were disabled by default. If your suggestion is right - solution can be to test GNOME or XFCE Live CD. I would do it after Milestone4 release. But it seems to me that problem is caused by memory leak in Kernel or X.org or KDE. Behavoir of the system was exactly you can expect when memory comes down and finally exhausts. Created attachment 350769 [details]
OpenSUSE 11.3 Milestone4 Xorg.0.log file
Tested OpenSUSE 11.3 Milestone4 / GNOME Live CD
System boots and doesn't hang.
Problem: when GNOME started, there is no Window Manager at all.
So you can't move windows, or work in more than in one window.
But I experienced the same with 11.3 MS4 on netbook yesterday.
I think it is GNOME problem.
Will test KDE4 Live CD shortly
Created attachment 350772 [details]
dmesg output from OpenSUSE 11.3 Milestone4 / GNOME Live CD
Created attachment 350778 [details]
Hardware Information from YAST /OpenSUSE 11.3 MS4
Tested 11.3 Milestone4 / KDE LiveCD System again hangs during startup, I see dialog box "Starting Akonadi server" and than no response to keyboard. Ctrl+Alt+F1 also doesn't work. Please let me know what extra information is needed to debug this bug. (In reply to comment #8) > Tested OpenSUSE 11.3 Milestone4 / GNOME Live CD > > System boots and doesn't hang. > > Problem: when GNOME started, there is no Window Manager at all. > So you can't move windows, or work in more than in one window. > But I experienced the same with 11.3 MS4 on netbook yesterday. > I think it is GNOME problem. Can't you try a different WM like twm or icewm? > Will test KDE4 Live CD shortly But you did this before and the result was this bugreport, wasn't it? I would try to make sure that KDE4 desktop effects *are* disabled. Unfortunately I don't how to do this outside of a KDE4 session. Hopefully you can figure this out on some opensuse mailing list. Hi Stefan, Yes, I usually use KDE4, and I was testing 11.3 MS2/MS3 with KDE Live CD before. And reported this bug after testing. I can confirm here that bug is still present in Milestone 4. Stefan, can you please check another bug (also reported by me) https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=582982 After being able to boot on HP TC1100 Tablet PC with 11.3 MS4/GNOME Live CD, I have impression that those two bugs can be similar. Or have the same kind of problem to be fixed. additional information: I was able to reproduce this problem on another computer - Compaq Evo N410. It is pretty old system (2003), but it has discrete graphics and 512MB of RAM. after booting to KDE, I switched to console, and had a cup of tee. When I came back, I saw following on the screen: ... [2472.978 ] Out of memory: kill process 4238 (krunner) score 80263 or a child [2472.981 ] Killed process 4980 (kscreenlocker) vsz: 17120kB, anon-rss:92kB, file-rss: 144kB Than system stops to respond to keyboard even in console mode. Created attachment 350923 [details]
Xlog.0.log file - Compaq EvoN410, OpenSUSE 11.3 MS4
Created attachment 350930 [details]
dmesg -Compaq EvoN410 - OpenSUSE 11.3 MS4
Comparing to the first system, booting with GNOME Live CD doesn't help.
GNOME screen slowly redrawn, but than after some time becomes black.
It's still possible to open menu using mouse.
Would try to extract Hardware Info via YAST for better identification of individual components.
Compaq N410c: Hardware info module hangs at Probing Hardware -> Framebuffer Device. Video chipset identification form Xorg.0.log: ----------------------------------------------- (==) RADEON(0): RGB weight 888 (II) RADEON(0): Using 8 bits per RGB (8 bit DAC) (--) RADEON(0): Chipset: "ATI Radeon Mobility M6 LY (AGP)" (ChipID = 0x4c59) (--) RADEON(0): Linear framebuffer at 0x0000000048000000 (II) RADEON(0): AGP card detected Created attachment 350935 [details]
xorg.conf from older version of Linux
This is xorg.conf file from older version of Linux installed on this notebook.
(Kernel 2.6.27, x11-server-1.4.2)
That setup uses 'ati' driver:
Section "Device"
Identifier "device1"
VendorName "ATI Technologies Inc"
BoardName "ATI Radeon 9250 and earlier"
Driver "ati"
Option "DPMS"
EndSection
Created attachment 350936 [details]
Xorg.0.log from Compaq EvoN410 - X server 1.4.2 (working config)
(In reply to comment #13) > I would try to make sure that KDE4 desktop effects *are* disabled. > Unfortunately I don't how to do this outside of a KDE4 session. Hopefully you > can figure this out on some opensuse mailing list. We're still at this point. It doesn't help much to report similar - possibly unrelated - issues with other machines and different graphics hardware here. Please let's concentrate on this point here. Thanks.
KDE 4 Tip - Quickly Disable Desktop Effects
* January 26, 2009
So, that proprietary 3D graphics driver you installed is now causing you some problems, so you got rid of it. But there's a problem. Your KDE 4 installation had those fancy desktop effects enabled, which now aren't working. Instead of a KDE desktop, you have a nice white screen.
There is an easy keyboard shortcut you can use from within KDE to quickly toggle the desktop effects on and off if you have a problem with them which causes KDE to be unusable.
Simply press Alt-Shift-F12.
Note that this only toggles the setting for that session only. If you want to turn the setting permanently off, you must then go into System Settings > Desktop > Desktop Effects.
http://fosswire.com/post/2009/1/quickly-disable-desktop-effects/
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Boot into recovery... to the command line.
Type the following (replacing "[yourname]" with your user name, of course):
nano /home/[yourname]/.kde/share/config/kwinrc
Find the this line under the heading "Compositing":
Enabled=true
Change it to:
Enable=false
Then press Ctrl+X. Press Y. Press Enter.
Type:
reboot
And then log into KDE normally.
http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3098276.0
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Would try both variants later today or tomorrow.
Tried KDE LiveCD. Alt+Shift+F12 doesn't help, system hangs showing "Starting Akonadi server". Tested GNOME LiveCD. As before - there is no Window Manager after startup. tried ->twm "Another window manager is running" So, WM started but it's not visible. Logged out of GNOME session. I see GDM login screen. But there is no option to change to "Failsave" or "Twm" or "Xterm" session. What I should do now to move further? It seems problem is not with visual effects (X compositing), hardware [ATI RADEON XPRESS 200M] or Xorg. Or not even with KDE 4.4.1 But with some combination of those components in 11.3 Milestone4 (and previous milestones). As I wrote some time ago, I have Fedora12 (stable) installation on this computer. I updated it recently to latest available packages, so I have KDE 4.4.1 running (no problems). Xorg has been updated to: X.Org X Server 1.7.5.901 (1.7.6 RC 1) Release Date: 2010-03-05 I enabled Visual Effects in KDE Control Center. And it works - transparency, "cube rotation" for desktop, etc. Checked /home/[yourname]/.kde/share/config/kwinrc ... [Compositing] AnimationSpeed=3 Backend=OpenGL CheckIsSafe=true DisableChecks=false Enabled=true GLDirect=true GLMode=TFP GLTextureFilter=1 GLVSync=true HiddenPreviews=5 XRenderSmoothScale=false from dmesg log: ... [drm] Initialized drm 1.1.0 20060810 [drm] radeon defaulting to kernel modesetting. [drm] radeon kernel modesetting enabled. radeon 0000:01:05.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 17 (level, low) -> IRQ 17 [drm] radeon: Initializing kernel modesetting. [drm] register mmio base: 0xFF2F0000 [drm] register mmio size: 65536 [drm] GPU reset succeed (RBBM_STATUS=0x00000140) [drm:rs400_gart_adjust_size] *ERROR* Forcing to 32M GART size (because of ASIC bug ?) [drm] Generation 2 PCI interface, using max accessible memory [drm] radeon: VRAM 64M [drm] radeon: VRAM from 0x1C000000 to 0x1FFFFFFF [drm] radeon: GTT 32M [drm] radeon: GTT from 0x20000000 to 0x21FFFFFF [drm] radeon: irq initialized. [drm] Detected VRAM RAM=64M, BAR=64M [drm] RAM width 128bits DDR [TTM] Zone kernel: Available graphics memory: 222444 kiB. [drm] radeon: 64M of VRAM memory ready [drm] radeon: 32M of GTT memory ready. [drm] GART: num cpu pages 8192, num gpu pages 8192 [drm] radeon: 4 quad pipes, 1 z pipes initialized. [drm] radeon: cp idle (0x10000C03) [drm] Loading R300 Microcode platform radeon_cp.0: firmware: requesting radeon/R300_cp.bin [drm] radeon: ring at 0x0000000020000000 [drm] ring test succeeded in 1 usecs [drm] radeon: ib pool ready. [drm] ib test succeeded in 0 usecs [drm] Panel ID String: Samsung LTN154X1 WXGA [drm] Panel Size 1280x800 [drm] Radeon Display Connectors [drm] Connector 0: [drm] VGA [drm] DDC: 0x68 0x68 0x68 0x68 0x68 0x68 0x68 0x68 [drm] Encoders: [drm] CRT1: INTERNAL_DAC2 [drm] Connector 1: [drm] LVDS [drm] Encoders: [drm] LCD1: INTERNAL_LVDS psmouse serio2: ID: 10 00 64 [drm] fb mappable at 0xF8040000 [drm] vram apper at 0xF8000000 [drm] size 4096000 [drm] fb depth is 24 [drm] pitch is 5120 fbcon: radeondrmfb (fb0) is primary device Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 160x50 fb0: radeondrmfb frame buffer device registered panic notifier [drm] Initialized radeon 2.0.0 20080528 for 0000:01:05.0 on minor 0 Hope this helps a little bit. (In reply to comment #24) > Tried KDE LiveCD. > Alt+Shift+F12 doesn't help, system hangs showing "Starting Akonadi server". You described before how to disable Desktop effects without starting the Xsession. ================================================================================ Boot into recovery... to the command line. Type the following (replacing "[yourname]" with your user name, of course): nano /home/[yourname]/.kde/share/config/kwinrc Find the this line under the heading "Compositing": Enabled=true Change it to: Enable=false Then press Ctrl+X. Press Y. Press Enter. ================================================================================ Stefan, How I can boot into recovery ... to the command line ... from LiveCD? I don't have this LiveCD (11.3 MS4) installed on hard drive. I am testing it as a Live CD, booting from USB stick. If there is a way to boot from LiveCD directly to command line (runlevel 3), and than switch to runlevel 5 after disabling 'Compositing', I would be happy to test. Don't know whether you can boot a LiveCD into runlevel 3. That's one of the biggest disadvantages of a LiveCD. When it comes to investigate issue a LiveCD becomes rather useless. :-( Is it possible to install OpenSUSE 11.3 to another USB stick, and than start from that USB stick (drive)? I can boot from one USB stick with Live CD, install it to another, and than switch to runlevel 3 after boot from 2nd USB stick. I have tried it once with some Linux distro, guess it was OpenSUSE 11.2, but that not worked. Another alternative is USB stick with "persistent overlay" http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLiveCD/USBHowTo "The Live USB key can feature an area to store changes to the system, called a persistent overlay. It can also have a separate area to store user account information and data such as documents and downloaded files, with optional encryption for security and peace of mind. Essentially, you can carry your computer with you in your pocket, booting it on nearly any system you find yourself using" Is it possible to have similar installation with OpenSUSE? I'm afraid I don't have any answers for you. I'm not familiar with the capabilities of our LiveCD. Better ask on an openSUSE mailing list. Well, things are getting really complicated. I decided to be brave enough and do real installation. I selected GNOME LiveCD - as it was not hanging in Live mode. Booted, selected Install from first menu (without booting in LiveCD mode). And... System is hanged after 30 sec. or so. I see on Terminal 1: .. Starting HAL daemon done Starting the Network manager done Connecting.... 21 sec. done Re-starting syslog srvices done Starting rpcbind done Starting auditd done Mount CIFS File Systems unused Not starting NFS client services - no NFS found in /etc/fstab unused Than nothing, boot process stopped. Terminal 3 ------------- ... KIWI PreInit log + '[' -f .profile ']' + set -x ++ stat -f -c %T /proc + local DTYPE=ext2/ext3 + test ext2/ext3 '!=' proc + mount -t proc proc /proc That's all Terminal 4 -------------- [ 20.62 ] EXT4-fs (sda3) : mounted filesystem with ordered data mode [ 20.71 ] squashfs: version 4.0 (2009/01/31) [ 21.64 ] fuse init (API ver. 7.13) [ 21.92 ] loop: module loaded [ 21.94 ] EXT4-fs (loop0) : barrirs disabled [ 21.94 ] EXT4-fs (loop0): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode Terminal 7 - blank. Any suggestions what's wrong? And what should be next step? Don't know either. This appears to be a seperate issue. Tried to change Video mode from default (800x600) to VESA. Same effect - system hanged at the same place. Selected TEXT, than Installation. OpenSUSE 11.3 Milestone 4 booted to login: ! But installation procedure has not started. How I can start installation process in text mode? Sorry, you're asking the wrong person. Here is my cookbook on disabling Compositing in KDE4 when starting from OpenSUSE Live CD. 1) boot from Live CD (USB stick) 2) Select F3-> Text (Video) in GRUB 3) boot in text mode to console 4) login as 'root' 5) mv /home/linux/.kde4 /root/.kde4 5) edit kwinrc as described in Comment 23 you need to add section [Compositing] Enabled=false as it is missing 6) Switch to runlevel 5 #init 5 7) KDE4 would start. Good news: Dialog "Starting Akonadi server" would appear on the screen and than disappear. I also hear startup sound. BAD NEWS: After few seconds KDE4 would again hang. It doesn't respond to keyboard, so it's not possible to switch to Terminal 1. What would be next step to debug this problem? If the autologin starts a Xsession as root user, then you now probably have disabled KDE desktop effects (if the howto is correct). I would have expected that the autologin starts the Xsession as linux user though. Ok. Let's assume that desktop effects are disabled. So the freeze wouldn't be related to these. This makes things more complicated. Maybe I can reproduce that issue on my machine with a similar GPU with a later Milestone. It might take a couple of weeks before I can look at this issue. Stefan, There is another possibility to find what causes this problem. As I wrote before, GNOME LiveCD starts on this hardware, but there is no Window Manager. And startup of GNOME rather slow - much longer than KDE. My guess is that Window Manager (Metacity?) starts, but than crashes. At least I have tested GNOME LiveCD on another machine, and I have seen Window Manager :-) So probably what is needed is a GNOME Live CD, with debuginfo for Xorg and GNOME. Than I can launch it, probably booting first in Text mode as described in comment 35, and check where it crashed using console debug output. Now question is if there is such LiveCD with debug info available for Factory or Milestone4? Another possibility is LXDE or XFCE desktop/Live CD. If bug is inside Xorg or some X drivers, it may appear in those environments too. No, we don't have a LiveCD with debug packages. This would need to be a LiveDVD. I'm not sure if we have a LXDE or XFCE LiveCD. Probably not. I doubt that continuing with a LiveCD we are going to gain any more useful results here. I suggest to give up with 11.3 LiveCD testing here. Seriously. If I gave up on testing now, there is a good chance that OpenSUSE 11.3 *FINAL* would not work on this notebook. This doesn't sound as a good option. well, to go forward I resized Windows partition and got 15GB of disk space. Installed GNOME LiveCD to hard disk. Reboot after installation brought me to text mode (X was not starting). But following several config screens and one more reboot I have GDM login, and GNOME session starts (*without Window Manager*, exactly like in LiveCD startup) IceWM also starts fine. What should be next step to debug problem? My guess Xorg, Metacity / GNOME with debuginfo would be a good start. Thanks for taking the pain to do a real installation. This makes things easier for the future. Nevertheless in that case it makes more sense to wait for Milestone 5 since we've updated the complete Xserver stack (Xserver, X driver, libdrm, Mesa) and Kernel. Using KMS is now the default for radeon. So things will likely change anyway for M5 (for the better - or the worse). So I suggest to do a real installation from DVD to your 15GB partition once M5 is available. Not a crippled one from LiveCD. So you can chose to install whatever desktop you would like to test, e.g. KDE4, Gnome, Xfce and icewm. I would certainly test/install Milestone 5 as soon as it's available. And so far current *installation to HDD* looks good. After proceeding with install from GNOME LiveCD, I added LXDE and FXCE 'patterns'. GNOME/OpenBox session starts fine, and Window Manager works - so it's good solution for people who want to test Milestone4 and experienced problem like I had (with no WM after startup) In addition, I have OpenBox and FXCE sessions available in Session Manager. Both OpenBox and XFCE start fine, without any (visible) problems. Therefor, it seems scope of problem is limited to Metacity (I suggest that's default WM for GNOME installation) or KWin WM from KDE4, or some parts of Xorg/X drivers. What is the most simple way to install Metacity (Kwin) with debuginfo? As I have now installation on hard drive, it should be relatively easy to proceed. Where to find debug packages for kwin/metacity you need ask our KDE/Gnome developers. You might need to open seperate bugreports for this. As said before it doesn't make much sense to investigate X.Org issues right now, since the behaviour likely is going to change for M5 anyway. Added 'KDE' pattern - KDE-basic. Installation was smooth. Logged for 'KDE' session. Visual effects (Composite) are enabled/visible. And - surprise, surprise!.. No hanging of the system. sysinfo:/ in Konqueror ------------------------- Display Info Vendor: ATI Technologies Inc Model: Radeon XPRESS 200M 5975 (PCIE) Driver: radeon ~> rpm -qa | grep x11-driver xorg-x11-driver-input-7.4-46.1.i586 xorg-x11-driver-video-radeonhd-1.3.0_20091124_6387ab4-2.1.i586 xorg-x11-driver-virtualbox-ose-3.1.4-5.1.i586 xorg-x11-driver-video-7.5-2.1.i586 ~> rpm -qa | grep x11-server xorg-x11-server-7.5_1.7.6-2.1.i586 xorg-x11-server-extra-7.5_1.7.6-2.1.i586 Logged again as 'KDE/OpenBox' session. Everything works fine too. Now I am confused. Has YAST picked up newer (comparing to Milestone4) Xorg packages, or problem disappeared due to Install via GNOME LiveCD/dual-boot process with text mode configuration?.. Ok. So the issue appears to be fixed. Please verify with M5 and reopen if required. Just tested Milestone 5. Unfortunately problem is still present - KDE4 hangs after startup, so I reopen this bug. Created attachment 354464 [details]
X.Org X Server 1.8.0 log file from OpenSUSE 11.3 Milestone 5
In addition to previous comment - GNOME Live CD starts fine, and Window Manager working correctly (so non-working WM problems has been fixed in Milestone 5)
Still the same problem, if you boot with the kernel boot option nomodeset ??? This disables KMS. Started 11.3 Milestone5 with 'nomodeset' Same effect - KDE4 freezes after startup. I start thinking that this may be a KDE4 issue. On the other hand, I have several other machines where KDE4 is running fine. So probably it's a combination of factors. When systems freezes, I see "Starting Aconadi server" progress bar, and 'kres-migrator' in the panel. Can it be that Aconadi server/kres-migrator doing massive memory allocations, and system runs out of memory? as a sid enote - Mozilla Firefox 3.6 from MS5 crashes on this system, tried from GNOME LiveCD (several times, immediate crash on startup from GUI or command line). This looks very strange, I guess Firefox has been checked and should not crash on startup when new Milestone is released. But it can highlight some memory allocation problems, as this notebook has shared video (UMA) with ATI chipset. Okay. I'm afraid we reached a point where I only can give up (tried my best). Sure you can try to reassign to KDE guys for investigation, but I'm afraid they are going to reassign back to Xorg component, so that wouldn't help at all. Also I can't help you with Firefox 3.6. I believe that's a seperate issue. I apologize that I can't help you. Unfortunately not everything in opensuse can be fixed without proper knowledge of and direct access to hardware. The lack of ressources comes on top of it ... I would appreciate it if you would keep this bug closed. The other option is that I'm going to ignore that reopened bug for the time being. Conclusion after retesting Milestone5: - GNOME and LXDE sessions work as expected you can login and system is usable - KDE session hangs after startup You see "Starting Akonadi server" dialog before system is completely frozen. Therefor it seems to be KDE issue, not (directly) related to Xorg, so I reassign it to 'KDE4 Workspace' component. If the system is completely frozen and e.g. not even Ctrl+Alt+F1 works, that is not KDE's fault, it may at most trigger a problem elsewhere. So sorry, this is back to comment #49. (In reply to comment #51) > If the system is completely frozen and e.g. not even Ctrl+Alt+F1 works, that is > not KDE's fault, it may at most trigger a problem elsewhere. So sorry, this is > back to comment #49. Vladim, this is exactly, what you've told you before! (In reply to comment #52) > Vladim, this is exactly, what you've told you before! I mean what I've told you before ... Stefan, I think this just demonstrates attitude and unwillingness to fix problem. And this is very bad for OpenSUSE/Novell. If GNOME, FXCE and LXDE do work, and those are complex environments comparing to "pure X"/TWM, than failing KDE4 environment is exactly KDE problem. Or *OpenSUSE problem of packaging KDE* As I wrote in the very beginning (comment 1), I tried Fedora 12 Live CD on this system and it worked out-of-the-box. To make sure that problem was not introduced by latest 2.6.33/2.6.34 kernel or latest XOrg, I will try Fedora13 Beta to see if it works. Follow-up to this bug report: Reported problem has been fixed in final release of OpenSUSE 11.3 I also was able to install it to HDD from LiveCD. |