Bug 623226

There is a problem in trying to create a bootable install usb from the dvd.iso using the normal methods for 11.2 dvd.iso creation.
The drive boots and the install runs till package selection takes place when the install and no longer recognizes the usb drive.
The workaround is to do a hdd install using the network boot iso.

The live.iso's do not have a problem but do not allow a hdd install.

Assigning to isohybrid maintainer.

Same problem here. Some additional observations:

- Stick correctly boots as /dev/sdb (or /dev/sdb1) with iso filesystem (after applying isohybrid).

- The installation source is not found, so I have to explicitly select the stick as "hard disk" /dev/sdb1, path /.

- Later, after the license screen a message appears that usb-storage will be loaded.

- During the system configuration check the installer complains that the partitions on /dev/sdb cannot be edited with parted (which is not surprising as it is an iso image).

- A message follows stating that the repository from URL 'hd:/?device=/dev/sdb1' cannot be created, details: empty destination in URI 'hd:/?device=/dev/sdb1'

- There is a chance to manually select the repository; however, the drop-down selection for the device does not contain /dev/sdb or /dev/sdb1 but only partitions from /dev/sda (the internal drive). 

- At that point, switching to the console I can successfully do a "mount /dev/sdb /mnt" (or /dev/sdb1) and read the files in there. So the stick is still there. 

I suspect that the installer falsely concludes that /dev/sdb is not a valid device for installation (although it booted from there). 

Michael

Just looked at it with Michael and it looks like we screwed up hard disk
installs in oS 11.3 entirely. :-((

A workaround is to use the boot option namescheme=by-label (in case
of the iso image) or namescheme=by-uuid (if you don't have a label set).

So the steps to a usb stick install are at the moment:

1) dd iso to usb stick
2) run isohybrid on it
3) boot and
  3a) set install target to disk via F4 (leave all fields empty)
  3b) add boot option namescheme=by-label

Confirmed. 

Boot option namescheme=by-label allows me to install from stick. I used the same stick as described above but on another PC (the former one meanwhile got its installation).

BTW, USB stick installations should be carefully checked for the next releases; in my opinion we will see USB sticks nearly completely taking the place of burned DVDs in short term.

Michael

Documentation:

I do not rate it useful/necessary to open an *extra* documentation bug.

But would it be possible that someone with the necessary knowledge please take a look at:

* the openSUSE wiki:
** SDB:Live USB stick
http://wiki.opensuse.org/SDB:Live_USB_stick

* the openSUSE forums:
** Thread: Cannot install 11.3 from USB flash drive (51 postings)
http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-help-here/install-boot-login/442070-cannot-install-11-3-usb-flash-drive-6.html
** Thread: HOW DO I MAKE A BOOTABLE USB DRIVE (16 postings)
http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-help-here/install-boot-login/442850-how-do-i-make-bootable-usb-drive.html

* the mailing lists:
**11.3: 1GB RAM f. Netbook Installation zu wenig
http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-de/2010-08/msg00037.html

and make some edits in the wiki
(and maybe some explaining/hints in the forums/mailing lists, too)?

Regards

Martin

(In reply to comment #4)
> Just looked at it with Michael and it looks like we screwed up hard disk
> installs in oS 11.3 entirely. :-((

I'd not say it's screwed up. Well, actually zypp looks for an entry in /dev/disk/by-uuid or /dev/disk/by-label which has the same major/minor device number than the specified media. 

The problem is that the device is not listed there, although it probably should, shouldn't it?


Calling vol_id was just a fallback if there is no by-uuid/by-label entry. This fallback now fails as vol_id is dropped.

Fixed libzypp-7.9.2 to use bklid instead of dropped vol_id. 

For older zypp versions you need to use a device that either appears in /dev/disk/by-uuid or /dev/disk/by-label.

hi linux hackers , here is the easy way to have opensuse 11.3 ready to install
from a usb flash disk . 

1) format your usb stick with Fat32 . 8 GB 
2) isohybrid file.iso  (opensuse 11.3 DVD image )
3) run unetbootin . I used the last version 
   choose opensuse factory and load your hybrid image
4) now you should have a working usb media to install 
  opensuse 11.3 . plug your pendrive , reboot 
  your pc then choose boot from usb .
  you will have a prompt .
  don't choose default , choose linux .

5) after opensuse installer finish loading , change the setting
so that you can install from hard disk . you will see your flash
there , it will ask u for a mount point , just type '/' and hit
OK . 

6) then come the beautiful graphic install (no bug ) . Done


have a lot fun ..

(In reply to comment #10)
> hi linux hackers , here is the easy way to have opensuse 11.3 ready to install
> from a usb flash disk . 
> 
> 1) format your usb stick with Fat32 . 8 GB 
> 2) isohybrid file.iso  (opensuse 11.3 DVD image )
> 3) run unetbootin . I used the last version 
>    choose opensuse factory and load your hybrid image
> 4) now you should have a working usb media to install 
>   opensuse 11.3 . plug your pendrive , reboot 
>   your pc then choose boot from usb .
>   you will have a prompt .
>   don't choose default , choose linux .
> 
> 5) after opensuse installer finish loading , change the setting
> so that you can install from hard disk . you will see your flash
> there , it will ask u for a mount point , just type '/' and hit
> OK . 
> 
> 6) then come the beautiful graphic install (no bug ) . Done
> 
> 
> have a lot fun ..

That's isn't correct.
With item 3 you can choose the distrbution OR the image.
I tried it with the hybrid image but with no success. The installation brokes with the same error descriped above.
When I choose the distribution unetbootin goes into the internet and download all the files for the choosen distribution.

There is not a lot of fun ...
Regards

Reopening since I just ran into this issue when trying to install oS 11.4 M3 from a flash drive.

Please attach the yast logfiles (see http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Bugreport_YaST)

Apparently this was a problem with my manual setup of the flash drive. Directly using the image with dd and isohybrid made it work as expected, sorry for the noise.

Update released for: libsatsolver, libsatsolver-debugsource, libsatsolver-demo, libsatsolver-demo-debuginfo, libsatsolver-devel, libsatsolver-devel-debuginfo, libzypp, libzypp-bindings, libzypp-debuginfo, libzypp-debugsource, libzypp-devel, perl-satsolver, perl-satsolver-debuginfo, perl-zypp, python-satsolver, python-satsolver-debuginfo, python-zypp, ruby-satsolver, ruby-satsolver-debuginfo, ruby-zypp, satsolver-tools, satsolver-tools-debuginfo, yast2-qt-pkg, yast2-qt-pkg-debuginfo, yast2-qt-pkg-debugsource, zypper, zypper-debuginfo, zypper-debugsource
Products:
openSUSE 11.3 (debug, i586, x86_64)

(In reply to comment #15)
> Update released for: libsatsolver, libsatsolver-debugsource, libsatsolver-demo,
> libsatsolver-demo-debuginfo, libsatsolver-devel, libsatsolver-devel-debuginfo,
> libzypp, libzypp-bindings, libzypp-debuginfo, libzypp-debugsource,
> libzypp-devel, perl-satsolver, perl-satsolver-debuginfo, perl-zypp,
> python-satsolver, python-satsolver-debuginfo, python-zypp, ruby-satsolver,
> ruby-satsolver-debuginfo, ruby-zypp, satsolver-tools,
> satsolver-tools-debuginfo, yast2-qt-pkg, yast2-qt-pkg-debuginfo,
> yast2-qt-pkg-debugsource, zypper, zypper-debuginfo, zypper-debugsource
> Products:
> openSUSE 11.3 (debug, i586, x86_64)
1) How are these updates connected to "Bug 623226 - zypp: installation from hard disk impossible"? Should and will the DVD and live CD iso images (GNOME, KDE; ...) for 11.3 also be changed? Or will the solution only effect the next release (openSUSE 11.4)?


2) In General:
I think it would be desirable to have a working and well documented easy graphical way
a) to make a live USB drive/live USB stick just by booting and starting a burned live CD on a computer with an CD drive, plugging in a USB drive and a few clicks (like with Knoppix).
b) to make an live USB drive on a netbook with a Microsoft system running and without any CD drive.
(But this last two issues may be more issues of the existing or new openFATE threads? - I am a bit lost in the differentiation and the connections of 'new' feature realization and hunting/retracing bugs in to be already 'realized' features ;) )