Bug 535888 - kde4 integrated file dialogs not stable
Summary: kde4 integrated file dialogs not stable
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: openSUSE 11.2
Classification: openSUSE
Component: OpenOffice.org (show other bugs)
Version: Milestone 6
Hardware: x86-64 Other
: P2 - High : Major with 5 votes (vote)
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Assignee: Jan Holesovsky
QA Contact: Ke Yu
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Reported: 2009-09-01 09:59 UTC by Forgotten User 10buyl7JnO
Modified: 2009-10-17 16:28 UTC (History)
6 users (show)

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2009-09-30 20:58 UTC, Tim Fechtner
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Description Forgotten User 10buyl7JnO 2009-09-01 09:59:12 UTC
User-Agent:       Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.2) Gecko/20090730 SUSE/3.5.2-2.4 Firefox/3.5.2

kde4 integrated file dialogs in openoffice are better. However they are extremely slow at times. When we move mouse over any folder/file, it becomes unresponsive.
Also When we do Ctrl+Shift+S to do save as, it doesn't open the location of current file but home directory or one directory above the location of actual file.
Sometimes it doesn't have excel file in proper format even if selected as xls.
File dialogs have checkboxes with no label which confuses user. I was not sure if all should be filed as separate bugs so I filed all here. I can post screenshots if required.

Reproducible: Always

Steps to Reproduce:
1. Open Excel file in open office
2. Press Ctrl+shift+s to save as
Comment 1 Tim Fechtner 2009-09-18 18:27:38 UTC
See also bug 536581.
Comment 2 Tim Fechtner 2009-09-18 18:32:28 UTC
The actual KDE4 integration of OOo is so slow, that the hole OOo is really unusable - also on fast machines. For this, I have raised priority.

As we are not too far from the 11.2 release, That the easiest and most effective way to get a working OOo is IMHO to remove the KDE4 integration for 11.2 completly. Than there stays time to make a usable KDE4 integration for 11.3.
Comment 3 Carlos Gonçalves 2009-09-19 22:46:54 UTC
I can confirm this bug. Using Factory.
Comment 4 Tim Fechtner 2009-09-30 20:58:56 UTC
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Comment 5 Tim Fechtner 2009-09-30 20:59:25 UTC
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Comment 6 Tim Fechtner 2009-09-30 20:59:50 UTC
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Comment 7 Tim Fechtner 2009-09-30 21:19:38 UTC
Ping?

The KDE4 integration has _very_ much issues. To name a few:

- floating symbel bar has no window margen (1.png)
- In comboboxes, text is corted a bit on top and a lot at bottom (2.png)
- non-selected (but available) tabs in tab view are greyed out, indicating that they would be disabled (what's not the case, they are working) (2.png)
- Checkboxes are corted a little bit at bottom (3.png)
- Radiobuttons are corted a little bit at bottom (3.png)
- "up" and "down" buttons in spinbox are far to small to be usable

So there are many problems, for example:
1.) The file dialog often doesn't point the the correct directory or doesn't select the necessary extension
2.) Showing a menu - a very simple task - takes 1 sec. After leaving the menu, it takes another 1-2 sec until it has disappeard.
3.) Loading of complex dialogs (several tabs) takes even longer.

This makes OOo tiresome and so slow that it is not usable for real world usage. (Finally, I've switched to the vanilla version, downloaded from openoffice.org - despite the disadvantages that this change also brings)

And for all that disadvanteges, we get nothing than an ugly, badly adjusted UI style.

I strongly recommend to remove the KDE4 integration of OOo from 11.2 and wait until it is major.
Comment 8 Stephan Kulow 2009-10-01 08:26:58 UTC
but then we can't have any KDE integration of OOo as KDE3 deps won't fit on the live cds. So if you claim "we get nothing", you're wrong. I'm not sure we can fix this with an online update, but I think this would be better than dropping KDE integration.
Comment 9 Forgotten User 10buyl7JnO 2009-10-01 08:35:41 UTC
I agree with Stephan. We should keep it for now and offer update when fixed.
Comment 10 Tim Fechtner 2009-10-01 15:29:33 UTC
Hm.

"We get nothing" is maybe a little bit exessiv. I wanted to say that with the actual KDE4 integration we get a result that doesn't looks much poorer than the KDE3 integration, but has as many disadvantages that it makes working with OOo very painfull.

It is not nice that KDE3 doesn't fit on the Live CD anymore :-( but we can't change it. I understand the problem. So the choise is only between the actual KDE4 integration (not nice at all + painfully slow) and no KDE integration at all (not nice + fast), right?

I personally would prefer no KDE integration. Maybe that's a subjectiv choise, but I just don't think that it is good to deliver an office application that can't run with acceptable speed.

However, IMHO the question is:

1.) Is it really sure that there will be online update that fixes the issue?

If no, I would prefer drop KDE4 integration.

If yes:
2.) Is it possible that the KDE4 integration stays disabled by default after the installation from CD and is later enabled by default when the online update is available?
Comment 11 Ke Yu 2009-10-16 03:15:49 UTC
It works for me on openSUSE-11.2-m8 with OpenOffice_org-3.1.1.3a build. All 
these fixes will be avilable on openSUSE-11.2-rc2 => FIXED
Comment 12 Stephan Binner 2009-10-17 16:28:28 UTC
From where can one get "OpenOffice_org-3.1.1.3a build"? OBS OpenOffice.org:UNSTABLE has only 3.1.1.3 build, and published only 3.1.1.2 which is older than the RC1 version.